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BeitragVerfasst am: Mi 28 Jan, 2004    Titel:

Indeed all graphics i have sofar are taken from spellforce.
The basic idea is more or less the following
The start set will contain 4 tribes (humans,elfs,orcs.dwarfs)
Each tribe has 6-7 units (warriors) and 5-7 buildings and a titan. (as mentioned). Next per tribe 3 card are available.
A settlement can be turned into a tribehome. (like the citadel of T&D) (1 VP)
A tribehome can be turned into headquarter (2 VP)
A headquarter can turned into a palles (3VP)
To be able to "enhance' the tribehome tribe ponts need to be scored, which are available on the units/buildings.
Each player can build more tribes in his kingdom Each tribe has 2 friend tribes which can live together in the kingdom and 1 enemy tribe that can never be build together.
Eg.

Humans ->friend elf/dwarf
elf -> dwarf/orcs
dwarf ->orcs/humans
orcs -> elf/dwarf.

A condition to win the game is at least 1 tribe palles and 1 tribe titan

Next some cards need to be made to conflict tribewars...
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BeitragVerfasst am: Mi 28 Jan, 2004    Titel:

hola,

when i add up all the cards the schoul be in a first set, i get the sum of at least 60 cards for 4 tribes, even without any action or '?'-cards.
this is far to big.

i would propose to include only 2 tribes in the first set but add some general action- and '?'-cards. this would add up to max. 40-45 cards wich is still big, but not TOO big. and you would get a complete working playable set.

then this could be followed by 4 add-on with one tribe each, completed
with some tribe-specific action-card. so an add-on would include approx. 20 -25 cards.

additionally there could be some rules for playing with more than 2 players or for playing with 'mixed' tribes...

d-lyx

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BeitragVerfasst am: Mi 28 Jan, 2004    Titel:

size Will probably be a problem indeed.
Kunst&muziek also is a huge set, but it's a great set to play.
The basic set should be playable with 1 tribe each, so if the basic set only contains 2 tribes, some room, for event/action cards is left.....

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BeitragVerfasst am: Mo 09 Feb, 2004    Titel:

AxeCrazy hat Folgendes geschrieben:

Kunst&muziek also is a huge set, but it's a great set to play.


Actually ?
I mean it's nice but since it was done, I have collected many hints and points to make it better. There are some cards that don't have to be in that set and other components that make an equal game only in a few constellations possible.
(Oh god I need more time....)

But never the less, it's up to you to decide for what purpose this set should be.
Do you want to satisfy every player or only "Settlemaniacs" ?
For people playing only now and then, it's getting too big (in relationship to the time needed to play).
But following d-lyx's hint could be a good solution, so everybody can choose which variation to play...

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BeitragVerfasst am: Mo 09 Feb, 2004    Titel:

@mcsunfly
hola, er lebt, er lebt. er macht sich rar, aber er lebt. sei gegrüßt!

@axecrazy
yes, listen to what master mcsunfly said and follor my hints
because i am already thinking of the necessarity to translate the ste into german then, and i think i know who is going to do that...

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BeitragVerfasst am: Mo 09 Feb, 2004    Titel:

d-lyx hat Folgendes geschrieben:
@mcsunfly
hola, er lebt, er lebt. er macht sich rar, aber er lebt. sei gegrüßt!



Ja tut er noch, wenn auch momentan fast ausschliesslich zwischen Bergen von Unterlagen, Paragraphen, Formeln usw....

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BeitragVerfasst am: Di 10 Feb, 2004    Titel:

some great ideas have been generated on the dutch forum.
i'll try to give a explaination within a few days here.
for now look at http://www.kolonisten.nl/kaartspel/rasset.php
for some artwork/description

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BeitragVerfasst am: Mi 18 Feb, 2004    Titel:

Well lets see if i can make things a little more clear (don't know if anyone follows this, but i'll give it a shot anyway ;))
The initial set will contain 4 tribes. Each tribe has
3 developmentcards
4 units that contain Tribepoints
4 expansioncards (also with tribepoints)
1 titan (superunit)
2 actiecards

The basic idea is that a settlement can be replaced by a tribesettlement if a certain condition has been forfilled (different per tribe. eg. human tribe requires at least 2 tradepoints)
In this tribesettlement Tribe units and buildings can be placed. if you have reached 3 tribe points the tribesettlement can be replaced by a tribecity which can contain even more tribe unit/building.
I you reached 6 tribe points teh titan can be build and if you reach upo to 8 tribe points the tribemetropool can be build (a condition to win the game)
Next some events will take place on the robber-dicethrow.
And some general event-card will be included.
2 expantion sets are already defined.
- 3 extra tribes (darfelfs Dwargs and the undead)
- a Magic expantion

so far.
you'll be hearing from me...

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BeitragVerfasst am: Mi 18 Feb, 2004    Titel:

of course were (or at least i am) still following the thread.
the new set(s) seem to develope quite quickly so far, but it (they) also seem to leave catanian grounds more and more.
of course i am the last to mourn about this, as you all know i like to expand the catanian principies and to explore new never-thought possibilities, so move on with that set(s). i hardly can wait for a first version to test..

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